Kris Mineau of Anti-Gay Massachusetts Family Institute Is the Quintessential "Wolf In Sheep's Clothing"
Anti-Same Sex Marriage Groups Call For Dialogue to Be More "Civil"
Kris Mineau, President of the Massachusetts Family Institute and board member of its ballot question committee VoteOnMarriage.org is calling for a more civil dialogue, "not on the debate of same-sex marriage" but on the way that "both sides need to conduct themselves." This press release by MFI and the subsequent BayWindows interview with Mineau came at the same time that Pro Equality Leaders including KnowThyNeighbor.org, The Anti-Violence Project and The Religious Coalition for the Freedom to Marry sponsored a Candlelight Vigil To End the Violence and Hate which is being spewed at the Gay Community.
Mineau claims to have a great relationship with the RCFTM and MassEquality and actually calls Marc Solomon, MEQ's Director out as a gentleman. His problem seems to be with KnowThyNeighbor and its "stormtroopers" as he calls the pro-equality supporters which were present at Mineau's Democracy Rallies last month. The same rallies that anti-gay Catholic Citizenship's Larry Cirignano assaulted Sarah Loy while she held a sign against discrimination--all within clear sight of Kris Mineau and other MFI leaders.
I find Mineau's use of Nazi terminology to describe gay people and equality supporters deplorable however typical when trying to make the victims appear to be the aggressors. This tactic was often employed, yes by the Nazis, to turn a nation and its people against the Jews. The Jews were blamed for everything
including The War itself as this propaganda poster from Hitler's Germany shows (translation, Jews, the inciters of war the prolongers of war). I want you all to look at a series of historical essays at this link also. Strategies have not seemed to change much. Today, Mineau likes to further denegrade gays by using tactics such as claiming that "gays control the legislature," "gays control the courts," "gays have more money than straights," and "gay money is coming in from around the country" to peg us as the "evil ones."
But Mineau's logic right now if one reads into his "cry for dialogue" is even more calculated. Mineau is calling for the gay leaders, Arline Isaacson and Marc Solomon to join in some sort of future forum to call for civility. Even Solomon sees this as a ploy to take the public's eye off of the anti-gay side. But I hope that Marc and Arline understand what Mineau is doing. By segregating KnowThyNeighbor and the voices of the empassioned equality supporters from "the gay leadership", Mineau is trying to clean up his playing field--making this a battle between the gay lobby, MassEquality (and its messaging) and the anti-gay lobby. The last thing Mineau wants is real people crying fowl, real gays and lesbians and their families coming out and protesting and advocating. Mineau wants the "human" element removed and to make this a play of press conferences, post cards, emails and photo ops. The anti-gay side is losing support as we have seem in MFI's "Democracy Rallies." And the only ones left seem to be the most desparate, the most angry and the most offended when we hold a mirror to thier faces.
There will be more to this to come but right now the call for gays, lesbians, transgenders and bisexuals is to be visible. This is not right what they are doing to us and you MUST BE OUTRAGED. Kris Mineau cannot be allowed to silence us nor should any fear (from our gay leadership) be allowed to silence us either.
Take a good look at the graphics in Ethan Jacob's BayWindows column which show the quotes coming from "the clergy" who support Kris Mineau's organization. This is just the tip of the iceburg of thier hate and bigotry and insidious rhetoric. And take a step back and understand the reality...
We say, "We Want Equal Rights." They say, "Gays Destroy Families." We say, "Don't Amend the Constitution with Discrimination." They say, "Same-Sex Marriage is the 9-11 of Modern Society." We say, "We Love Our Husbands and Our Wives or Our Boyfriends or Girlfriends." They say, " Gays Relationships are Likened to That of Spinster Aunts or a Brother and a Sister Who Live Together." We say, " We Want Marriage Equality." They say, "If We Let Gays Marry, What Is To Keep People From Marrying Thier Dogs."
We should be outraged. NO, WE MUST BE OUTRAGED!!!
Tom Lang, Director
As I learned at Washington's Holocaust Museum, one of the Nazi tools to repress the Jews in the ghetto was to deny them the right to marry. Sound familiar?
Posted by: Thomas | January 18, 2007 at 04:31 PM
Tom, it seems odd for you to make such sweeping and freaky claims about your opponents "rhetoric" without providing a single specific example from an original source.
Posted by: Genghis Cohen | January 18, 2007 at 04:38 PM
When the first post came up about Mineau asking for a civil dialogue the first thing that came to mind was, "Well just do it". He doesn't need our help.
Posted by: John | January 18, 2007 at 04:39 PM
The Nazis tried to ban Jews from marrying, for the same reason that White Supremacists wanted to stop black people from marrying white people: they were trying to prevent couplings that would result in babies. If you think that the anti-ssm movement has analogous motives, then you need to go read up on the birds and the bees, Thomas. Kris Mineau is not to blame for the inability of two men from making a baby together. Take it up with that old bitch Mother Nature.
Posted by: Genghis Cohen | January 18, 2007 at 04:44 PM
YAwnnnnnnnnnn.....Oh poor poor Ghenghis still utilizing the "homos can't make babies" rhetoric. Aren't you bored to tears yet G.O.P. puppet puke?
Posted by: musclehippy | January 18, 2007 at 05:13 PM
just because they can't "make" babies doesn't mean they can't "have" children.
big difference. I know some straight people who should never raise a child.
right Tyler?
Posted by: ryan charisma | January 18, 2007 at 05:15 PM
just because they can't "make" babies doesn't mean they can't "have" children.
That's irrelevant to this stupid comparison to the Nazis, who were out to stop Jews from MAKING babies.
Ryan, unless you want us to believe that SSM will increase the number of gay people, then you should admit that the Nazi analogy is as brainless as it is inflammatory and hateful. The Nazi proposal was intended to support a calculated policy to remove the Jewish people from the world. I'm unaware of evidence that shows that SSM produces more gay people. But if you guys want to tie your movement to such a goofy argument, it's your funeral.
Posted by: Genghis Cohen | January 18, 2007 at 05:38 PM
Genghis, I am somewhat shocked at your one dimensional thinking on the Nazi analogy. The similarity is self evident; gay people and jews were both considered untermenschen. That is your link between the two, and not baby making.
Frankly, I don't understand how the procreation argument keeps popping up. No where in America are people under any type of requirement to produce, or be able to produce children, in order to marry. In fact there are no circumstances that marriage can be lost, as if it were a priviledge, and that shows it is in fact a right.
Let's stop the dissection of every single word and actually try to understand each other, shall we? I find repetition quite boring and unnecessary.
Posted by: John Hosty | January 18, 2007 at 07:28 PM
It's cuz these right wing whack jobs can't think of anything else to use anymore! LOL!
Posted by: musclehippy | January 19, 2007 at 08:09 AM
Shut up Genghis...
You are a such moron...and even more so if you don't get the anaolgy between what Kris Mineau is doing and what Hitler did....
I, personally am not going to try to explain to dense people like you with IQ's less than 100 the compare and contrast of the discussion.
Honestly if brains were cotton... you would not have enough to make a tampon for a flea.
Get a life...and better yet...get the F*ck out of here!
Posted by: Joe S | January 19, 2007 at 09:11 AM
Hahahahahaha......nice analogy Joe.
Posted by: Cherie Johnson | January 19, 2007 at 09:43 AM
Here come Holocaust Hosty
Eva Braun Cherie and
Mengele musclehippy
all led by the Big Hitler Tom Lang and his eichmenn Toleos
a finer bunch of Nazis I have never seen
wha wha wha
Kris Mineau is getting more press than me
wha wha wha
els a Nazi
Tom you look like a complete beaten fool
You are required to produce children to keep families going Hosty
everybody knows it is the culture and tradition to continue the family name and legacy you dope
it may not be law but it is very strong
Posted by: The Patriot | January 19, 2007 at 11:01 AM
"it may not be law but it is very strong"
It can't be very strong if you feel that such culture and tradition is threatened by extending legal protection to same-sex couples.
Posted by: John | January 19, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Patriot...was it really necessary to post crap like that?
I thought you were above that
Posted by: Cherie Johnson | January 19, 2007 at 11:50 AM
"I thought you were above that"
Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: John | January 19, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Anytime John....it's Friday after all!
Posted by: Cherie Johnson | January 19, 2007 at 12:17 PM
"it's Friday after all!"
OMG it is. Shit.
I thought is was Thursday.
Posted by: John | January 19, 2007 at 12:49 PM
Thank gosh it is Friday. I can't fathom another day of W-O-R-K!
Posted by: Cherie Johnson | January 19, 2007 at 01:11 PM
"Thank gosh"?
Are you afraid to take the Lord's name in vain?
Posted by: John | January 19, 2007 at 01:15 PM
Just curious, if we are the Nazis, why is their fight against gay marriage referred to as "The Master Plan"? They might as well call it "The Final Solution" because there are so many analagos points.
Posted by: John Hosty | January 19, 2007 at 01:22 PM
"Are you afraid to take the Lord's name in vain?"
THANK FUCKING GOD IT'S FRIDAY!
Is that better John.....lol
Posted by: Cherie Johnson | January 19, 2007 at 01:40 PM
"Is that better John.....lol"
Yes, I was afraid you had found God and gone soft on me.
Posted by: John | January 19, 2007 at 01:58 PM
"gays control the legislature," "gays control the courts," "gays have more money than straights," and "gay money is coming in from around the country" to peg us as the "evil ones."
It’s odd when people make these laughable claims.
Prior to Nov. 2006 the GOP had control of the executive branch, congress, the senate, and with Pres. Bush installing two justices (one of them the chief justice), somehow they’re the ones that are under-represented.
Posted by: ken weaver | January 20, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Ken is correct, which goes to show you how strong the conservative movement still is in the USA
which is why Massachusetts is such an aberration.
But it is indeed a battle worth fighting for and we proudly fight it for the rest of the Patriots across God's country
Posted by: The Patriot | January 20, 2007 at 02:38 PM
He has trampled out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored
He has loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword our God is marching on
Glory Glory Hallelujia
Glory Glory Hallelujia
Glory Glory Hallelujia
His truth is marching on
Posted by: The Patriot | January 20, 2007 at 02:42 PM