If I Am Going To Hell, I Know Who Will Be Holding The Door When I Get There

Jerry Falwell, Tele-Evangelist, Racist, Sexist, Homophobe Dead At Age 73

The Associated Press reported that this morning :

"The founder of the Moral Majority was discovered without a pulse at Liberty University and pronounced dead at a hospital an hour later. Dr. Carl Moore, Falwell's physician, said he had a heart condition and presumably died of a heart rhythm abnormality."

Jerry Falwell had a "heart condition" all right, he had a black, black heart and one wonders how it beat at all.  I am not going to mix words on this one.  Quite frankly, the damage that "Reverend" Jerry Falwell did to this country, to minorities, to women, the LGBT community and how we look at our fellow human beings both on the political spectrum and in polite society cannot be reversed.  Not in my life time at least.  From the LGBT perspective, the deaths and stigmatization of a large group of beautiful human beings, lost to us forever, are burned on this man's soul for eternity.

With regards to his death and the LGBT community, Matt Foreman, executive director of The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said it best as he extended condolences to those close to Falwell, but added: "Unfortunately, we will always remember him as a founder and leader of America's anti-gay industry, someone who exacerbated the nation's appalling response to the onslaught of the AIDS epidemic, someone who demonized and vilified us for political gain and someone who used religion to divide rather than unite our nation."

Will Jerry Falwell's legacy live on?  Unfortunately, yes.  That one of the heads of the Hydra is gone, a thousand more are ready to take its place.  But maybe, just maybe the decent people of this nation have learned how to keep them from growing. 

Tonight I ask you when you talk about the death of Jerry Falwell to say a prayer, take time for a moment of personal silence or reflection, lift a glass, yell at the top of your lungs, or just quietly remember those in the LGBT community (the human community) who passed away without being shown any common decency, without being given even a shred of dignity, without being shown respect or being given the opportunity to fight for what we now call "equality."  Remember them... 

Tom Lang, Director

Comments

[Dave]

You can say what you want about Jerry, but he spoke the truth and upheld it, he is now in the glorious presence of the Almighty. He upheld the standard, the Bible. So Tom, you can have your opinions which originate from your own sin, but again like I said in an earlier post ALL that matters is what is in the Bible, the Word of God. So keep your opinions, say what you will, write what you will, you are leading yourself to Hell. Gays and all who practice sexual imorality, who die in their sin are condemed to punishment for all eternity; with no rest, no pardon, no second chances. God will not tolerate sin.

[Tom Lang]

You are right Dave. From a Christian perspective I am a sinner. And I will even go so far to say that I sinned heavily in this post about Falwell. I put to pen my anger against a man who led this country in the demonization and hatred against a group of people. That is a sin.

However, my love for my husband is not. And nothing you can say and nothing you can invoke will ever change that.

And while we are on the topic of sin, I was always taught that one does not speak for God. " Gays and all who practice sexual imorality, who die in their sin are condemed to punishment for all eternity; with no rest, no pardon, no second chances. God will not tolerate sin."

A word of caution to you Dave...I would be very careful in your presumtuous self-appointment as His spokesperson.

[musclehippy]

Hey now what can I say folks!! All together now...

Ding dong the witch is dead! which old witch?
The wicked witch!
Ding Dong the wicked witch is DEAD!!!

Wake up sleepy head
rub yer eyes! Get out of bed!
Wake up! The wicked witch is dead!
She's gone where the goblins go!!
Below-below-below
YO HO!
Let's open up and sing and ring the bells OUT!!

Ding dong the merry oh!
Sing it high and sing it low!
Let them KNOW!!

The wicked witch is DEAD!!

As mayor of the munchin city,
in the county of the land of OZ,
I welcome you most regally,
but we've got to verify it legally!
To see if she is morally, ethically,
spiritually, physically,
positively, ABSOLUTELY,
undeniably and RELIABLY D-E-A-D!!!

As coroner I must aver,
I have thoroughly examined her.
She's not only MERELY dead,
she's really most sincerely DEAD!

Let the joyous news be spread!
the wicked old BITCH at last is DEAD!!!!

Oh Jaymeeeeeeeson I sooooo hope your reading this!!! LMAO in absolute GLEEEEEEE11

[Joe S]

Amen Tom...

Dave... you are full of crap...and you are delusional...I am a Christian but even I know the that bible is incomplete and inaccurate in many places...and IMPOSSIBLE to accurately interupt from a laymens point of view....

Although "inspired" by faith...it is NOT meant to be taken at face value.... i.e...if you believe that Leviticus condemns homosexuals and their life style than you MUST...that's right Dave MUST equally condemn eating lobster and pork...and disagreeing with your parents can get you stoned publicly...and I am not even going to get into what the author thinks of womens menstral cycles....the entire section on "do's and don'ts" was for a DIFFERENT TIME...not NOW....eating pig and shell fish...which were usually not properly cooked could KILL a person....if you were gay... you did not HAVE 25 CHILDREN TO INCREASE THE HERD!!! HENCE...IT WAS A SIN!

Grow up and practice what Jesus ACTUALLY DID SAY....Love your neighbor...feed the hungry, comfort the oppressed...be a light on a hill...and glorify HIM...not yourself with that light Dave...I smell the stench of superiority which most evangelicals spew and we have all had enough of it!

And P.S. If what Tom has is his "opinions" not based in fact...according to you....then the same can be said for you..and I think I have spelled it out so even YOU can understand....Keep your opinions....in your church...in your mind...and in your home....but KEEP YOUR DOGMA OUT OF SECULAR POLITICS!

[Dave]

You know Tom you are correct on one point, maybe I should just quote God's Word and let him do the talking instead of my just paraphrasing or summarizing things. After all He has a lot more "Street Cred" than I do:

Some excerpts from the New Testament -

Read Paul's letter to the Romans (Paul was a persecutor of Christians in the early years of the Church before he found Jesus.

Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"

Romans 1:18 "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind; to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

Ephesians 5:1 "Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them.

1 Peter 3
Wives and Husbands (Shows that marriage is one man and one woman - God says

"Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

1 John 5
Faith in the Son of God

"Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

John 14:6 "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."

Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Tom,

You are deceived, and you are deceiving others with your opinions and this Website which have no foundation except on evil. God says marriage is one man and one woman - period, you lose. Pull all those names who signed off this site, it is intimidation, and just plain wrong. What's next? Horses heads on the front door stoop of those who sign or vote?

[musclehippy]

YIKES!! Another shit for brains religious nutjob!! Now where the hell did this flake pop in from? Is this the yo yo ma from TexASS by any chance???

[The Patriot]

Conservative Christian values and culture are woven into the fabric of this country's government and its judicial system.

you want to weaken them

we want to strengthen them

this is why we campaign, persuade, cajole and and then vote

The secular, unitarian religion of the pseudo Christians has wreaked havoc on Moderate Christians who are being persecuted for their beliefs.

The Episcopalians, Congregationalists, Lutheran and Methodist churches are in disarray because of it.

Your Christianity is at odds with mine.

You must tolerate my religious beliefs. True diversity happens when we all respect each other and live and let live. Then the vote becomes the expression of that respect.

not using intimidation tactics against neighbors

NOTE
"Paul was a persecutor of Christians in the early years of the Church before he found Jesus"

actually, Jesus CHOSE Paul and used him as a vessel. Paul becomes the central figure of Christianity and the only one to endure to this day.

[Tax Protester]

In SOUTH PARK fashion, I can see Jerry on all fours, squealin' better than Ned Beatty in Deliverance, with Mr. Beelzebub himself doing the driving and a befuddled, dishelvelled Saddam crouched in the corner crying.

[John]

I know Dave's God and I don't like Him; He doesn't meet my moral standards. He will have to work a lot harder to earn my worship.

[John]

I know a man who interviewed Jerry Falwell. The man absolutely oozed hate. The planet will rotate quite nicely without him.

[musclehippy]

DAMN!! Here I thought Jaymeeeeeeson had croaked already!! Sighhhhhh. =-((

[John]

"Jesus CHOSE Paul and used him as a vessel"

With a powerful assiste from the dude on the toilet.

[Ferma LeBush]

The wonderful thing about Paul is that almost immediately after his diatribe about unrighteous behavior (which was primarily idol worship and prostitution), he turns to his congregation and blasts them for their OWN unrighteous behavior.
This one's for you, DAVE:

2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. 2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. 3 Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.

6 He will render to each one according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are self-seeking [1] and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. 11 For God shows no partiality.

Dave and other fundies of his ilk ALWAYS neglect to cite these passages.
How convenient for him.

So how do you wrap this around your fundie mind, Dave?

[John]

Another thing to remember about the fundamentalist:

They like to believe in the WHOLE bible but they gloss over the very real dispute between James and Paul.

To the point that Luther tried to James out because it conflicted with his vision of salvation by Grace alone.

[ryan charisma]

Falwell is dead, mother always said speek good of the dead,
Falwell is dead, .... GOOD!

May he rot in his secured place in hell for all of eternity.

I'm only sad that he lived so damn long.

[musclehippy]

bet it would be kinda funny seeing god tryin' to squeeze his fat ass through the eye of a needle! LOL!

[John Hosty]

"What's next? Horses heads on the front door stoop of those who sign or vote?"

Why is it intimidation when we post names and promote dialog (your ass is here), yet VoteOnMarriage.org can create "Wanted: Dead or Alive" posters of the legislators who voted against them? Little double standard Evalngelist bullshit?

BTW, if you want to quote the Bible, try reading Romans 14.

[John Hosty]

Isn't Dobson about the same age? ;)

[John]

I hear Dobson is in poor health, too.

[Lula]

I can say with all honesty that upon reading about Falwell's death, I literally said out loud, "Good."

Then I felt bad that I would have such a reaction to another person's passing.

That lasted about two hours.

The world is far better off without this atrocity of a person.

As for Dave's statement: "God will not tolerate sin"...

Well, then, buddy boy, you and Paul have your work cut out for you. I'd get crackin.

[Lula]

This is the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read at this site, considering the source:

"You must tolerate my religious beliefs. True diversity happens when we all respect each other and live and let live. Then the vote becomes the expression of that respect."

SUCH insincere, self-serving BULLSHIT.

The vote would not become an expression of respect. It would become a tool for discrimination and ignorance...a means of curbing diversity, not condoning it.

Your vote would strip others of their rights.

There IS no respect there, asshole. NONE.

I don't wish physical harm to anyone, so don't spin this into being some threat or some wish that you would die, Paul, but as is the case with Falwell, the world would indeed be a better place without the likes of you in it.

[John]

"You must tolerate my religious beliefs. True diversity happens when we all respect each other and live and let live. Then the vote becomes the expression of that respect."

I actually wish that that were true.

Because if it were, then the vote is unconstitutional.

The section of the Massachusetts Constitution which permits initiative petition sepcifically puts religious questions off limits"

And I quote:

"No measure that relates to religion, religious practices or religious institutions; or to the appointment, qualification, tenure, removal, recall or compensation of judges; or to the reversal of a judicial decision...shall be proposed by an initiative petition."

[Lula]

"You can say what you want about Jerry, but he spoke the truth and upheld it"

This is a great line.

He spoke the truth?!

The man blamed 9/11 on us, the gays, saying that this nation's acceptance of homosexuality brought God's wrath...Our nation's foreign policy, not we gays, brought on 9/11!

The guy didn't speak the truth, he spoke absolute insane bullshit!!! And if you can actually say that he spoke the truth, you're a fucking nutjob yourself.

[John]

Jerry Falwell would not have know the truth if it crawled up his pant's leg, perched on his ass and sang "Ave Maria"

(I stole that comment from Ed Brayton)

[Lula]

"After all He has a lot more 'Street Cred' than I do"

Um.

You have NO cred, Dave.

You're a religious quack.

We're intimidating YOU?!

Re-read your posts...you've come here to call us, quote unquote, evil, perverted, immoral, sinful, indecent, unnatural...need I go on?

So you can shove your "you're intimidating us" right up your wackadoo ass, bozo.