Kris Mineau Comes "Out of the Closet" in Iowa

Where Oh Where Has Our Homophobe Gone, Oh Where Oh Where Can He Be...?

Just two days after Ethan Jacob's BayWindows article,  "Silence of the 'Phobes"  which talks about the uneasy silence and shift of focus coming from Massachusetts equality foes and bigoted gadflies, Massachusetts Family Institute spokesperson Kris Mineau appears in an Associated Press story story about the Iowa Marriage Decision.

The AP story goes on to say, "On Friday, Romney discussed the matter in a private conference call with Iowa House Republican Leader Christopher Rants, who has endorced Romney, and Kris Mineau, president of the Massachusetts Family Institute, which worked on gay marriage issues in Massachusetts."

Mittler Romney said later that day that he "would renew his calls to amend the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage" and said "that's essential to our future."
And I guess it was important to Mittler to consult the one man whose attempt to stop Marriage Equality in Massachusetts was "all potatoes and no meat" as that sort of issue-based campaigning has proven effective before for the uber-conservatives.  Kris Mineau as you remember used his spin " a groundswell of support to stop same-sex marriage" to dupe, fraud and mis-inform Massachusetts voters and we all suspect that he will be doing it again (at least in an advisory position) in other states such as Oregon.

You should be outraged!  Read this AP article again.  It is easy to hate Mitt Romney, Kris Mineau and and the other reprehensible "conservatives" and Republicans.  But take a closer look at what the Democrats have to say.  Hillary Clinton was evidently the first to offer a reaction to the Iowa decision on of all things, "The Ellen DeGeneres Show"  and instead of applauding the decision in Iowa for Equal Rights, she gave her support for civil unions "with full equality of benefits."   So, if Hillary Clinton is elected, "benefits" will get equality but gays and lesbians won't.  Come on Mary Breslauer (who I think may have come up with that stupid phrasing), you can do better than that!  LGBT people are not idiots and you are more Uncle Tom than Karl Rove.

Let the games begin.

Tom Lang, Director KnowThyNeighbor

Comments

[Lula]

I just LOVED the above exchange, Paul.

Why?

Here you are Paul, telling us time and time again that we are unfit to be granted civil marriage rights, that we are perverts, that that we are incapable of living a moral lifestyle, and alas...that we are unfit to be PARENTS...

But YOUR fitness as a parent has been brought into question and you threaten a lawsuit?!

Are you for fucking real?

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

I have believed, and still believe, you are mentally unstable to parent and that your children are in danger, with you as a role model.

[Lula]

"It is frightening when you threaten my children."

And enough already with the claims of threats being made against you and yours, Paul.

ENOUGH.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true, and we have the blog right here as record of your baseless, pathetic accusations which only serve to sway the opinion of onlurkers unaware of your MO.

And I love how you ridicule JH for "not having a life" because of his blogging...

Just over a week ago, I believe it was, you were here ranting your usual bullshit at about 2 in the morning.

Jesus.

[Lula]

"Don't play stupid with me, you know very well what you are doing."

one word: Melvin

[Lula]

"This is what Oregon needs to see, the vile, low down scrum like you and Lang attacking children."

You really haven't learned from the VOM campaign and its tactics, have you, Paul?

By trying to twist fact and turn it into a weapon against us, you only show those whose support you wish to win that your cause consistently lies....you lie about us and our lives, you lie about solid fact... you LIE as strategy.

You were your own undoing in Massachusetts and you'll be your own undoing elsewhere, so long as you continue to lie not only to yourself but to your intended audience.

In your own words, Paul:

"Don't play stupid with me, you know very well what you are doing."

Your children have not been attacked. Your position as a role model and a parent has been.

Your children are at risk due to their exposure to your hate and bigotry. That's my opinion and the opinion of several others here and we stand by that, just as you stand by your opinion that we are all unfit to parent due to our sexual orientation.

I would ask you to stop lying, Paul, but again, you are only helping our cause by exposing yourself as the fraud you and those like you are.

It truly is pathetic when the bully gets a taste of his own medicine and then cries like a little bitch.

[John Hosty-Grinnell]

"Tell me more about myself and my family Hosty. Tell me more."

Well for starters you were sexually abused by someone who was male when you were younger. Then you were confused by this attack and experimented sexually when you were a teen. That caused a deep deep self revulsion, and now that revulsion transfers itself onto those whom you see that remind you of these events. It's called displaced aggression. This does not make you insane however, it is the delusions that do that.

If I were you Paul I would sign myself into a wellness clinic and get some intense psychotherapy. You'll feel better, and all of your relations will benefit from it, including your family. Children always know more than we give them credit for. You may think you have them fooled, but usually they just keep their mouths shut about their parents shortcomings when the feel bad for them.

Your posts are a cry for help, but there is no one who can help you when you refuse to help yourself.

[Lula]

As you know, JH, I've suspected all along that Paul is struggling with some personal demons. So many people become parents before they've tackled their own demons and grown into a person capable and qualified to be a loving, healthy parent.

As far as I'm concerned, he's just another Craig...I'd put money on it.

[Lula]

Another liar...used to lying, used to not having their lies questioned, and the liars who have believed them...continue to believe them...

CNN TICKER:

Craig kids believe dad is not gay

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two of Sen. Larry Craig's children said Tuesday they questioned him explicitly about "what exactly happened in that bathroom" where he was arrested in a sex sting and believe his assertions that he isn't gay.

Michael Craig said they asked their father about the June 11 incident at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport, which led to the Idaho Republican's resignation last week after it became public, because "we were shocked" at media accounts of the incident, he said.

Craig, 62, pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct following his arrest. The arresting officer said in his report that the restroom where he encountered Craig is a known location for homosexual activity.

In an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," Michael Craig said his father was simply "a victim of circumstance" and "in the wrong place at the wrong time."

"We've known him our whole life. He has been so trustworthy to us, so honest to us, that we believe him," Michael Craig said.

Larry Craig adopted Michael and his two siblings after marrying their mother, the former Suzanne Scott, in 1983. Craig has worked in the Senate to promote adoption.

Among the questions he and his sister Shae Howell said they asked their father was "what exactly happened in that bathroom," and they tried to "break down definitions of what words mean," including semantic definitions of sex, Michael Craig said.

"Maybe it wasn't sexual intercourse, but were these sexual actions? Were there sexual feelings? All these terrible things that were said in the media, we asked all those tough questions," Michael Craig said. "I don't want to have an answer based on a legality or technicality or semantics of the words. We wanted to know exactly what happened and after speaking to our dad, we know exactly what happened."

He said that it would make no difference to them if Craig was gay, though they "absolutely" believed Craig's assertion that he wasn't. "It would matter to my mom, but gay or straight, that part doesn't matter," Michael Craig said. "It was a matter of an accusation of a lewd, immoral, illegal act."

[ryan charisma]

those poor, stupid kids.

I mean really. It's admirable that they stand by their father. But to blatantly lie to themselves, because obviously it's what they WANT to believe. It's just sad.

If ignorance is bliss, they must be in heaven.

[Lula]

This victim of the anti-gay GOP is doomed. He's a political casualty. He is tasting (and has been tasting, if you think about it) the product of his own creation: homophobia.

I have little compassion for him, though when discussing the issue with another gay friend, I found myself agreeing that I need to find compassion for him since, in my friend's words, "he must be a very tormented soul."

The whole anti-gay machine is to blame for the Haggards and the Craigs of the world...and those against gay rights, including marriage equality, are the Frankensteins.

[John Hosty-Grinnell]

Compassion for those who his hatred drags down is appropriate too. Family members often enable their sick relatives by making excuses for them. "Well, that's just Paul." must be said quite often.

Instead of coming here every day to "shout down" your oppostion, why not try remembering that we are all equal citizens. Why not try a little harder to act like an adult, and stop giving in to your urge to hurt others as much as you hurt inside. Your children are soon going to be old enough to know exactly what you are soon. Here is your opportunity to give them the father they deserve rather than the one they have.

It's not too late to grow up Paul, even at your age.

[ryan charisma]

well said Mr. Hosty-Grinnell.

[Lula]

My own father is an example, Paul! He used to call gays "fags" all the time, until two of his kids ended up being gay.

I so hope one of your kids turns out to be gay, Paul...

Perhaps learning the hard way is the only way you ARE going to learn.

[Lula]

Speaking of the word "fag," has everyone heard about Jerry Lewis using the word yesterday during the telethon?

See the vid story at CNN.

[John]

I heard he didn't quite finish the word.

[Lula]

I watched it. Seemed pretty clear to me...

and here's this...

Lewis apologizes for anti-gay slur

NEW YORK (AP) — Jerry Lewis dropped an anti-gay slur — the same one that got Isaiah Washington of Grey's Anatomy in trouble — during the 18th hour of his annual Labor Day Telethon.

He apologized Tuesday for a "bad choice of words."

The 81-year-old showman — prowling about the stage during the live telecast Monday in Las Vegas — was goofing around and dodging his cameraman, then went into a ramble about imaginary family members.

"Oh, your family has come to see you," he said, speaking to the camera and gesturing toward thin air.

"You remember Bart, your older son," he said, and motioning toward another unseen character, "Jesse, the illiterate f——-."

"No," Lewis said, quickly stopping himself before continuing.

Monday's monologue prompted a critical statement Tuesday from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

Neil Giuliano, GLAAD president, called Lewis' use of the term "simply unacceptable."

"It also feeds a climate of hatred and intolerance that contributes to putting our community in harm's way," Giuliano said.

In a statement Tuesday, Lewis said he was making "a joking comment to a member of my production team."

"I apologize to anyone who was offended," he went on. "Everyone who knows me understands that I hold no prejudices in this regard. In the family atmosphere of the telethon, I forget that not everyone knows me that well.

"That something like this would distract from the true purpose of the telethon pains me deeply. ... I accept responsibility for what I said. There are no excuses," he said.

Lewis' telethon, in its 42nd year, set a record by raising $63.7 million to benefit the Muscular Dystrophy Association, topping last year's event by $3 million.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[Lula]

I think this is hysterical:

"Everyone who knows me understands that I hold no prejudices in this regard. In the family atmosphere of the telethon, I forget that not everyone knows me that well."

Awe, I can just feel the love. In the family atmosphere let me call your son an illiterate fag.

I don't get it.

[ryan charisma]

I get it.

I do have some straight friends whome I don't mind using the "fag / faggot" slur.

The really do mean it with love. But the difference is that I KNOW it's meant in a joking way.

This is Lewis' downfall. Not everyone is his close friend who understands. But I do also know that he wouldn't have survived in showbiz if his attitude was indeed really hateful.

So was it a slip of the tounge? I believe it was. Was it a mistake? I believe it was. Do I put this issue up there with Issah Washington's blunder? No, he was being ignorant and hurtful when he used the words.

We can never, ever forget that we need to be able to laugh at ourselves and not take everything so seriously. Is our equality serious? hell yes! But a simple word - I let this one pass.

[Lula]

No, I'm with you, Ryan.

I just don't get using that word when you're presenting a family friendly program where there are kids everywhere...it was a big lapse in judgement, probably caused by the nature of improvisation, and you're right, I think...the difference between your two examples you nailed.

I brought up this story as an aside, really. I was not vehemently anti-Lewis when I posted above.

[musclehippy]

Actually folks these types of mental slips are sad sad reminders of the bigotry that lurks in the subconscious. When bigoted stereotypes have never been challenged they just continue to grow and fester until it becomes such a normalized vocabulary usage that no one even thinks about using it. Jerry Jewish err...I mean LEWIS of all people should know better though. I personally find his comment unnacceptable and will not just blindly accept his oh so humble apology. Send the closet case bigot to a therapy session where ALL homophobes belong. On a seperate subject I STRONGLY disagree with Ryan's "close" hetero friends sloshing the slur "fag" around just "jokingly" of course. I have an idea Ryan the next time you see your hetero buddies hows about calling them "breeders". After all the heteros just need to "laugh" at themselves right? No harm intended. If they are your "buddies" then I'm sure they'll understand right Ryan. After all you are sayin' it with "love" right?

[John]

I had no idea that "breeder" was a slur.

[John Hosty-Grinnell]

Yes John, it is up there with "cretin" in it's meaning.

[Paul Jamieson]

Sorry Hosty. Reality is not writing something on a computer and believing it to be true. Of course, you do not live in reality. You think people actually read what you say and give a shit about it.

You can try to paint me whatever color you want, but it won't work.

You can slander me and my family and our resolve only grows stronger.

You can try to intimidate and bully people here and in Oregon or wherever your internet takes you, but you are a but a small spec.

You can try to change Christianity to your liking, but it has seen your kind come and go before and long after you are gone.

In the end, you lose, because you cannot handle what we throw at you. You cannot handle the truth. You cannot accept that you are not accepted and never will be.

All you can do is fantasize about how awful we must be and how unfortunate it is that we are all bigots and homophobes. All the while knowing that we outnumber you overwhelmingly and always will.

Keep dreaming. Keep fantasizing. And keep up your seething hatred.

My arguments have always been about the right of a free society to have a say on the definition of a very meaningful cultural institution. And the right of the people to never feel intimidated by their beliefs or religion. Its not about being gay Hosty. Its about freedom of thought, speech and the right to vote.

[John Hosty-Grinnell]

"Sorry Hosty. Reality is not writing something on a computer and believing it to be true."

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! OMG!!!

For you of all people to say that!!! ROFLMFAO!!!

Paul, I was wrong. You are not insane, you're retarded. It's a shame for you that both can be genetic.

[Paul Jamieson]

Sorry Hosty - won't work - I just post the facts. I don't write sweeping "why can't we all just get along" blubber like you. Or "you"re a retard" insults. You need to try harder.

Like my friend Ghengis - My arguments have always been about the right of a free society to have a say on the definition of a very meaningful cultural institution. And the right of the people to never feel intimidated by their beliefs or religion. Its not about being gay Hosty. Its about freedom of thought, speech and the right to vote.

[John]

"My arguments have always been about the right of a free society to have a say on the definition of a very meaningful cultural institution."

A rather substantial body of constitutional law proves you wrong.