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Brian Miller

Hate crimes legislation *IS* a crock (and I say that as a gay man).

So is this ruling.

The answer to this isn't "hate crimes" legislation, it's the creation of mandatory jail terms for individuals who commit violent assaults such as this. That way, whether this sort of moron beats me up, or beats up my aging straight mother, he'll go to prison for a long time.

The "hate crimes" laws, in contrast, would ensure that he wouldn't go to jail if he attacked my mother -- someone far less capable of defending herself than I am.

ryan charisma

Brian, the hate crimes bill is not only a deterrent to the perpetrator, in terms of making what happens to gays and/or your mother more/less heinous. It's to give support to the gays of those towns/cities where the police are (how do I say this nicely?...) not as supporting of the glbt community. And that's putting it mildly. In other words, the hate crime laws will force the enforcers to enforce. There are many towns/cities where the police are not exactly good to/for us.

So yes a murder is a murder and a mugging is a mugging. But until it's made clear that beating up the gay isn't just a fun thing to do on a drunken Saturday night. We need these laws.

Sad isn't it?

The Patriot

Wow a sensible reply from a sensible person, Brian

Your response doesn't fit the agenda of KTN

ryan charisma

Patriot, you're douchiness is showing.

schag

Perhaps it is time to bash back. Enough is enough. http://www.pinkpistols.org/

Tom

Ryan, in a very basic way you summed up one of the best responses to those who question the need for hate crimes legislation. Your tone was particularly effective too!

The Patriot

Above is a great example of the hate and intimidation that festers here at KTN. The kind that Hosty et al say doesn't exist. How would you like schag showing up at your door for a chat about gay marriage?

STOP THE HATE

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