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June 23, 2009

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John Hosty-Grinnell

I say the same tactic that works to get the DNC attention will work for MassEquality too. It's about time the people who fund them are called to hold them to more responsible acitons than to slink past us like they don't notice us.

For shame. A lot of the people that run JTIMA are either from MassEquality or are friendly with them, at least before this.

Alice Fisher

Yeah, its pretty awful when an outstanding lgbt activist networks with rich people so that he can do things like fundraise to prevent another prop 8 in Maine. Shame on him for doing his job.

Maybe if we all stood outside and yelled at voters in Maine, that will be more productive than raising the money to run an effective grassroots campaign.

Tom Lang

Alice, obviously you are missing the point of this post. Let's hear from Gortikov WHY he was at this fundraiser. He can "fundraise with 'rich' people" without showing up at a DNC party that is under the scrutiny of the LGBT movement at large. Were you at this protest? If you had been, you would have seen Gortikov slink in without even a nod to those activists which represent the core group of what put MassEquality in power in the first place.

The Patriot

you guys are the lunatic fringe and are expendable

John Hosty-Grinnell

Alice, there are many things Gortikov could have done to lessen the rift MEQ has become notorious for creating in the GLBT community.

For instance, they could be unifying the GLBT activists under one roof where our common goals would allow, but year after year they keep their distance from all the other groups.

If he felt that going to this fundraiser was important he could have walked over to the protesters and told them why he was there instead of pretending not to hear his name being called. Shameful.

MEQ has been unapologetic about being elitist for years, and they have marginalized many of those people they are supposed to be advocating for.

Sorry, but you don't have to step on anyone's toes to accomplish what you give him credit for, and that needs to be called out so it can be resolved once and for all.

John Merigo

If a statement of fact sounds like a personal attack, then it's a simple matter of "the truth hurts". Fact: if you call someone a "HATER" and then turn around and call them "expendable", you are making a hypocritical statement. Holy cow buddy. "expendable"? atrocity.

The Patriot

They are expendable to the mainstream leadership. Because of their hateful, intimidating ways, they are not considered mainstream, and are considered a liability.

No hypocrisy here, just an observation.

Just like Obama who is against SSM.

John Merigo

Mmm, I understand what you're saying but it seems to me that while we live in a "majority rule" society, we would be wise (among other things) to at least practice "minority non-persecution", EVEN if you feel that the non-persecution part isn't being reciprocated. Fighting fire with fire has never worked in human history (opinion) unless you'd like to count genocide. I guess it depends on your definition of the word "work" as it applies in the last sentence. "Leadership" is best practiced when one LEADS BY EXAMPLE. My observation is that you shout "extremist" from your position... on the other extreme! You've apparently given up on trying to have a productive conversation with your opposition, and seem to believe that (forgive me) members on this site are going to respond to your verbal violence by saying what? "You're right, we're haters! Thank you so much!"
Although it sounds like I'm criticizing you, I'm not; I'm guilty of the same thing. It's worth noting that after all the jabs were done, it were members of this site that extended the first olive branch. I'm not so naive that I don't realize: you think that branch is set to explode in 5 minutes. Ask yourself: if you are never going to forgive your opposition for having their own beliefs, what are you doing here? Why not start your own blog? Are you trying to cyber-sabotage them, and if so isn't that STOOPING to what you think is their level? I started out that way, but by listening to the members of this site I'm proud to say that we met in the middle. We MADE PEACE. Seems like a great example by the "leadership" of two opposing sides.
This whole thing has nothing to do with the point of the blog and I'm sorry for that. I stand by it however, as relevant and valid.

The Patriot

my comments are for visitors eyes so they get the truth

John Merigo

You didn't respond to my logic. RE: your comments "expendable to the mainstream" and "considered a liability". It's okay for you to say that, but Adolf was just hateful, huh? It's fine to call people a "liability" because they threaten your majority? If you ARE the majority, then why are you so threatened?
Anyway, back to the original blog topic (finally!) John, I have a suggestion that might be crazy, but I think would work. What if we used fund-raiser money to install GORGEOUS but self-segregated water fountains in Boston for LGBT people and supporters (anti-LGBT folks wouldn't DARE be seen using one). It's technically inoffensive, and would draw attention to the issue by making a powerful statement about the inequalities endorsed by even our highest government executive AND should remind certain people of how they felt when handed "separate but equal" (i.e. "you can get married in some states, but don't call it marriage!") I know it's a little crazy, but what do you think? With a nice enough fountain, people might start asking some questions.

John Merigo

ooops, maybe not... talk about "liability". Anyway, I'll keep thinking.

John Hosty-Grinnell

John, there actually was a campaign similar to this idea where pictures were taken with signs at the doorways of bathrooms and such where it said "GAY" to warn others they may be in mixed company with "those people". The drinking fountain photo was my favorite.

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